Return-Path: [cate3@netcom.com] Received: from netcom2.netcom.com by piccolo.cco.caltech.edu with ESMTP (8.6.7/DEI:4.41) id IAA04457; Tue, 20 Sep 1994 08:05:41 -0700 Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id GAA15310; Tue, 20 Sep 1994 06:56:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 06:56:59 -0700 From: cate3@netcom.com (Henry Cate) Message-Id: [199409201356.GAA15310@netcom2.netcom.com] To: JWry.dl@netcom.com Subject: Life B.T Reply-to: cate3@netcom.com Status: R --------------- Date: 19 Jan 94 13:48:07 PST (Wednesday) Subject: Life B.T The following was sifted out of alt.humor.best-of-usenet which is moderated by: best@cc.ysu.edu ---------------------------------------------------- From: joshua@sleepy.retix.com (joshua geller) In article [1993Dec1620.08.15.9859@silverton.berkeley.edu] djb@silverton.berkeley.edu (D. J. Bernstein) writes: ] Well, golly gee, have you never heard of universities? Some of us ] actually care about internal security. We can't just firewall ourselves ] off from the world and shoot users who don't cooperate. firewalling may be a bit extreme for a university, I agree. what's wrong with shooting users? -------------------------- [moderator's note: comp.unix.wizards was recently voted to become moderated] From: david@gl.umbc.edu (Dave Brookshire) In article [2emdp1$p9l@hpscit.sc.hp.com], Naseer Mohd [naseer@corp.hp.com] wrote: ] Now my question is can this group exist without an ego ? Yes...but not without an ID. -------------------------- From: tadman@ecf.toronto.edu (Scott Tadman) [WEINTRAUBJ@delphi.com] wrote: ]LETS START A NEW ALT.NEWSGROUP CALLED ALT.ARTIFICIAL.INTELLIGENCE OR ]ALT.A.I., IF FIRST NAME - WHICH IS MUCH MORE DISCRIPTIVE - IS TOO LONG. ]If there already is an Artificial Intelligence Newsgroup, for news ]about Expert Systems, Natural Language, Neural Networks, etc. I would ]appreciate its NAME. Joe Weintraub, President, Thinking Software I've figured it out. This is part of the process of comp.ai becoming self- aware. Really! Usenet is going to start posting to itself very shortly. The need for posters will be fully eliminated. People won't have to spend the effort thinking up stupid questions to ask! The BIFF quotient can be controlled by tweaking your news server software. Folks, we are at The Big Event. Usenet will never be the same when it thinks for itself. Let's just hope comp.ai doesn't like JP any more than the rest of us. -------------------------- From: jmw20@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Joshua Michael Wolf) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks Subj: The Mr. Sinister FAQ! Well, I'm getting pretty damn sick and tired of people asking questions about Mr. Sinister, so I've created the FAQ to answer all your questions. THE MR. SINISTER FAQ Part I- Who is Mr. Sinister? The most ridiculously powerful and ridiculously dumb character in the Marvel Universe. Next question. Part II- What are Mr. Sinister's powers? Fill in the blank yourself. Be creative. Part III- What is Mr. Sinister's origin? Fill in the blank yourself. Be creative. Part IV- Is he a hero or a villain? Fill in the blank yourself. Be creative. Part V- Why does he want the Summers DNA? Fill in the blank yourself. Be creative. Part VI- Is he really vulnerable to Cyclops's eye beams? Fill in the blank yourself. Be creative. There. Hope this has cleared up any questions. ;) -------------------------- From: tjm@titan.ams.com (Tom Maloney) In article [CI6z9x.B36@cvbnet.CV.COM] rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben) writes: There was this former N.H. governor (Meldrim Thompson I think) that was a very staunch conservative. One day he was driving South on route 93 toward the N.H./Ma. boarder, cruising in the passing lane at a very conservative 55 mph. Behind this very conservative Gov. was a very irate Ma. driver, who also was a rather law abiding citizen who, in total frustration, planeted his car directly on the bumper of of said governor. The Gov. was pissed but held his ground all the way to the Ma. boarder at which point the Ma. driver blew past The Gov., on the right. I can't believe this. I don't think it's possible to get further right than Meldrim Thompson. -------------------------- From: IZZYZL2@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU Newsgroups: alt.history.what-if Subject: Re: nice people would rule the world In article [s0763527.10.0@let.rug.nl], s0763527@let.rug.nl (M. van Groesen) writes: ]What if just nice people would be allowed to rule the world. Would it make ]the world a better place? I'd say that belongs under Fantasy, and not Alternative History. :) -------------------------- From: jjacobs@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (James T. Jacobs) Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian Actually, the rules of footy are simple. Inside the ball is a "melee magnet". Anyone holding on to the ball becomes the object of a mugging. Naturally, the object of the game is not to have the ball, but to get rid of the bloody thing before any of these murderous buggers get wise to the fact that you possess it. Kick it. Drop it on the ground. Bat it away with your hand. Anything, but don't hold on to it. The best thing is to bat it or kick it to an area where one of your team mates (who don't want the ball any more than you do) can get it. Then they can run like hell. But not very far. The sound of thundering footsteps will remind them that..."Damn! I really don't want this bloody thing after all!" AARRRGGHH!!!!!!! [sounds of a ball hog being driven into the ground like a spike] Even the intention of possessing the ball can get you seriously maimed. If the ball is flying through the air after a kick, don't be the first one to jump for it. Wait until some other poor, stupid bugger jumps for it, leap into the air and come down on his shoulders with both knees, driving his head down so far that he must wear a V-neck shirt in order to be able to see well enough to drive. If you and your team can play the game of "I don't want this damn thing, YOU take it" with enough skill to avoid being beaten into a bloody pulp, then you have the opportunity to *really* get rid of it by kicking it through the two tall goal posts and into the stands, where the melee magnet kicks in again, and the spectators have the chance to beat each other to bloody pulps whilst the players take bets on survivors. See? Simple game. *Go Carlton* -------------------------- From: rkl@merlin.think.com (Robert Krawitz) Subj: Longest Running RM/NEW Group War In article [alex-301293200820@dialip-33.mr.net] alex@spiral.org (Dave Alexander) writes: I just had this thought of some guy sitting down EVERY morning with his coffee and hitting a single key on his keyboard to run a macro to create a new group, and some guy on the other side of the world drinking his tea and running the same type of macro, but rm'ing the group -- each one hoping the other will just drop it one day. Certainly not. That would be altogether too much work. Any Real Usenet Weenie (tm) will automate the process. After all, with your method there's the risk of spilling one's beverage into the keyboard. -------------------------- From: rone@netcom.com (5150) Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology,comp.os.os2.misc In article [60.13417.3067.0N18F2D6@canrem.com], Andrew White [andrew.white@canrem.com] wrote: ]MI]THAN THE MOVIE ALIEN THREE (ALIENS THREE) ]Ho ho! If OS/2 is so good, then how come it doesn't have a line of ]action figures! Aliens does! I can see it now. A small, plastic, anatomically correct Mike Dahmus with a laptop. If you push his button, he says: "Linux sux! Linux sux! OS/2 iz g00d 4 U!" -------------------------- From: moore@cs.utk.edu (Keith Moore) Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.solaris In article [1994Jan5.002956.12884@unet.net.com], stan@shakespeare.net.com (Stan Heller) writes: ] My favorite tool in AIX is SMIT. Here is a tool that writes to all kinds of ] hidden files and the only thing that YOU get is, when the process is running ] you get this cute little icon in the corner of a guy running. If the process ] completes successfully, he raises his hands in triumph- if it fails, the ] poor schmuck falls down. How's that for useful debugging info?? I hear that they worked hard on that, and they're real proud of it. -------------------------- From: szielins@prodhp.us.oracle.com (Stephan Zielinski) In article [1994Jan06.220234.700@taylor.wyvern.com] mark@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis) writes: ]*DAMN* Is this CRAP appearing again. I wish someone would track that guy ]down and email him several hundred copies of proper and improper net ]uses!!!! Actually, I always have a field day when one of these things gets posted. It gives me more names for my IDIOTS files. You should maintain such a file, so when your boss hands you a resume and says "What do you think?", you whip out your trusty grep... -------------------------- From: ECZ5RMS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Robert Skinner- UCLA) [Actually condensed from several postings] ]Karen Lofstrom wrote: ]: Our condo has ants. Cement block condo, ground floor, it has ants, no ]: use fighting it. However, the big red ones decided to nest in the laser ]: printer. We pick it up from the shop tomorrow. How do we keep the ants ]: from getting into the laser printer again? My husband suggests, only ]: half-jokingly, that we put it on a little table with the four legs in ]: tins of water. Does anyone have any other suggestions? ]Robert Skinner- UCLA writes: ]|] I think you're missing the big picture here: Maybe the ants were trying ]|] to fix your LaserJet...maybe they NEEDED it. I suggest leaving your ]|] computer and printer on when you go to bed...see what the ants are up to ]|] ....Hmmmm. Sounds like a plot on the X Files. If African termits can bui ]|] ld 15 foot rock hard mounds just think what red ants could do with a 486 Gerard Fryer writes: ]I think leaving things on is part of the problem. Carpenter ants are ]constantly investigating my Sun workstation, which stays on all the ]time (to receive mail and serve the network), but they have no interest ]in my Mac, which gets turned off every night. It makes sense that the ants aren't interested in the Mac: 1. while a bu nch of them could move the mouse they'd never be able to double click. 2. Of course they like the Sun, it uses UNIX. Ants invented UNIX. I'll bet that if you had microphone and a really high gain amp you could hear the ants speaking C++ (clearly not a human language). Seriously NYC has a species of Cockroach that infest TV sets, the Brown Banded Cockroach. It's tropical species that can't survive New York's cold winters, except for the lucky ones that find a TV. That eat the insulation and enjoy the warmth. Apparently that a attracted by the hum of the TV's transformer. But still maintain that the ants are in the computer for a REASON. -------------------------- From: charles (c.a.) hoequist [hoequist@bnr.ca] Esteemed Editor, This is a followup to my posting concerning the new 411 service in Atlanta. In response to an e-mail request to post more details to the Digest about subscriber requests which don't exactly fit the telco's DA template, here is a selection. Bear in mind that the operator doesn't dare just brush off the subscriber. That may bring a complaint. But if the call takes too long, the operator's AWT (average work time -- the average duration of the calls at the operator's position) will go up, which is also evil. So everything has to be either solved or at least properly redirected, preferably in 20 seconds or less. First, there are some frequent errors, such as subscribers asking for DA in another area code. A subclass of of these are the telephony- challenged. The operators usually read out the entire sequence for the call to the subscriber ("Dial one, then [area code], then ..") and in one case the subscriber obediently hit DTMF 1 ("ma'am?" "Yes?" "You have to hang up first.") Second, there are ambiguous or poorly-stated listing requests. These can be mildly humorous: "I'd like the number of X in Jefferson" "Which one, ma'am? I have two Jefferson listings for that name." "Well, it's the one on the main street." "Neither is listed as having Main Street as an address." "No, it's the main street, it runs right through the center of town." (pause) "Ma'am, I don't know the name of that street." "Hmm. Well, it's the one that turns into the state road a little out of town ..." This can go on and on. Then there are some which are telephony-related, but not DA calls, like the bozo who badgered the operator endlessly about whether he'd get charged for a DA call made from his cellular phone. Or requests for beeper numbers. Finally, there are the miscellaneous requests: - what time is it? Not, what is the number to get the time recording? The subscriber was very explicit. - when do the buses run? - what zipcode is [X]? - and the winner: "Could you tell me what research is going on at Emory University?" -------------------------- From: alaric@netcom.com (The Renaissance Man) sarge@world.std.com (brian k short) wrote: ] While I was stationed at Ft Sill, Ok. we had an 3-6 who claimed this really ] happened in his unit: ] He had been in his unit for about a year and was an PFC. ] His unit was going out on an FTX (playing soldier in the woods) ] in Germany..... Reminds me of a story told by a friend, also stationed in Germany. Seems the locals didn't like the way that all-steel tracks tore up their roads, and so insisted that they use road tracks (which have rubber "tread" pads) all year round. One day, he was off tooling around the neighborhood in an M-60, got half-way down an icy hill just outside of town, and started to slide. He put it in neutral, and everyone just pulled their straps tight, sat back, and waited for the noise to stop. After things were quiet again, he put it back in gear, drove back through 100 yards of flattened orchard, drove it through the new hole in the 400-year-old stone wall, and drove the rest of the way into town. The locals let them use steel tracks when it was icy after that. -------------------------- From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli) In [1993Dec21.140054.11810@walter.cray.com] tness@sedist.cray.com (Tom Ness) writes: ]][]We're going to HP's and SGI's. With the hassle of a radically different ]][]OS and software either way, why not get *different* hardware. Something with ]][]performance specs that aren't at the bottom of the scale. ]I am interested in what CPU's/Machines are seen as having a better bang ^^^^^^^^^^^ ]for the buck than SUN. EVERYTHING ELSE. When you say, "are seen as" I think about the perception that customers have about the machines. In that case, Sun is at the bottom. Now if you want to talk about actual benchmarks the answer is less clear, since most benchmarks tell me nothing. Salespeople never give me the benchmark results I want: 1. The GreenStone -- "Will I spend more time unpacking this machine then it took to have it shipped?" This is based on the number of boxes, celophane, twisties, wraps, clips, jips, pips, dips and slips am I going to have to cut, break, open, rip, etc. to get the damn machine ready for use. This can also be measured as the weight of the refuse I will generate by purchasing one machine. A DEC MIPS machine + monitor, tape drive, and extra disk takes more time to unwrap than it takes to drive from NYC to Washington D.C. 2. The CrashStone -- The number of minutes a day I spend running over to the machine to reboot the machine. 3. The PatchStone -- How long after I call in a bug do I get a patch? Bonus points are added for companies that refuse to admit their OS has bugs. A factor in this formula is how many people I talk to before I talk with someone that is technical enough to know what I'm talking abut. For example, I was asked, "What a g-cos field?" by the engineer at Sun that was assigned to fix a bug in NIS. I almost mailed him the man page, and a history book on Unix. This also relates to the next benchmark. 4. The FixStone -- Once I get a patch, how many revs of the operating system do I have to wait until the patch is included in the OS. For example, see my post in comp.sys.sun.misc about the 3 bugs in Solaris 2.1 that I reported, had bugids assigned, had patches made: and none of them were in Solaris 2.2 or Solaris 2.3. Still nobody has promised me that they'll be in Solaris 2.4. 5. The LieStone -- How many times has a salesperson lied to me in a sales presentation. I'm technical enough that lies can't get past me and I love to call them on the carpet. I remember being told flat out that (1) Such a configuration would work, (2) they refuse to sell me that configuration because it won't work. (This was all at the same meeting). When I asked if those two statements are contradictory, I was told, "Yes". However, they won't back down on either point. 6. The UpToDateStone -- Does the vendor ship the latest Sendmail? Bind? awk? By some company standards, I worry about using cat! 7. The ManStone -- Does the vendor provide man pages on disk? Are they in pre-formatted for a vt100, or can I troff them to my laser printer? Do I get printed docs? Do I need to read the on-disk docs to set up the machine so that I can read the on-disk docs? Sure, vendors pay big license fee$ to ship them in electronic form, but they need to look around and see that all of their competitors ship them as a default. 8. The MarketingStone -- If I find a bug, will I be told that it won't be fixed because someone in marketing has to approve that it gets fixed, and nobody in marketing is competant enough to understand the bug? ...I could go on for days... Unix vendors, can't live with 'em, can't explain being "customer oriented" to 'em.
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